Loyal Cougars

Investigation Update: BYU expects no major NCAA penalties

Loyal Cougars can independently confirm reports that BYU anticipates no major penalties will result from its internal investigation and report to the NCAA. A source said the infractions are “not even in the same ballpark” as the 2008 infractions involving BYU volleyball.

Earlier today, Brandon Gurney of the Deseret News reported in a series of tweets that the scandal is not the colossal NCAA-rule-defying conspiracy some have said it may be.

It appears there are shreds of truth to some of the worst rumors. BYU players reportedly have stayed at former Director of Football Operation’s Duane Busby’s house, but if none of the athletes who did used it as their exclusive residence (or if none were recruits), this is not an NCAA infraction.

A source close to the BYU athletic department told Loyal Cougars that BYU believed the infractions discovered were likely Category III infractions, which as was examined last week, would not warrant any NCAA penalties. Out of concern for the possibility the infractions may be somehow deemed Category II, BYU assembled the investigation and awaits final feedback and any potential adjudication from the NCAA.

In other cases like this, players have to repay the cost of impermissible benefits they received. Earlier this year, it was reported that University of Oklahoma players were forced to repay $3.83 because they had been served what was deemed to be “food in excess of NCAA regulations at a graduation banquet.” It resulted in a week of pasta jokes around the Internet, but those are NCAA rules.

BYU’s forthcoming resolution is expected to look like something similar in practice to Oklahoma’s. Players will pay back the $10-20 per pair of socks or whatever else they received, people will shake their head slowly at the NCAA rules, and life will go on.

It appears that assumptions and conclusions about the motivations of some actions, such as Busby’s resignation, spurred on many of the rumors. For now, the only confirmed, public facts from BYU about the case are that Busby resigned and that an investigation is ongoing.

Uncertainty surrounds the situation and will continue until the final report is released to the public. Today, 1280 The Zone employee Patrick Kinahan wrote for KSL.com “The allegations may run deeper than the original reports,” and in an anything-is-possible sort of way, that could turn out be correct. But fans should remember what exactly those original reports are:

On Twitter, Jeff Hansen outlined and quoted from last week’s 22-minute radio segment over the weekend. Originally, reports varied from “thousands of dollars worth of gifts,” to “seeing reports he paid for some dude’s wedding,” to “iPads, car stereos, (and) cash gifts,” to speculation connecting Busby’s resignation as being forced out, to which players could be involved, and finally the idea that “free rent to players in late 90’s” was floated, but that was reported with the caveat that it was “not confirmed at this point.” Deeper than that?

One of the problems is that it has been difficult to separate sourced reporting from outright speculation. Cody Hoffman’s manager confirmed that an investigation is taking place, BYU confirmed than an investigation is taking place, but beyond that, “no comment” could just means “no comment.”

So yes, the allegations may run deeper than those original reports. It could turn out to be far worse than anything we’ve ever imagined, but until then, “the investigation is ongoing” doesn’t confirm any specific allegation.

It also could be that someone reported an NCAA technicality to BYU, Busby took the opportunity to move on, and BYU’s self report will be the end of the drama. We have reason to believe that will be the case.

11 Comments

  1. Dick Squeezer

    May 28, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    We have reason to believe that will be the case? Are you speculating through blue-tinted glasses? If so, that’s irresponsible and you’re mis-using the phrase ‘we have reason to believe.’ If you actually have reason to believe that will be the case, state your reason. If it’s just that you’re a BYU fan and are blindly believing that none of this will amount to anything because you don’t want it to, then another phrase is warranted. Another ‘media outlet’ reporting something with an angle that they apparently know nothing about because they don’t want it to happen. When are we (and by we, I mean BYU) going to get someone to cover this team that doesn’t have a fan agenda and will give us a clear picture of what is happening with the athletic teams at my alma mater? We’re a laughingstock to the rest of the country, and especially in Utah, because the total number of beat writers that cover BYU and aren’t BYU fans is exactly ZERO.

    • Gary DIal

      May 28, 2014 at 7:30 pm

      Methinks Dick is a troll. Always having the glass half full does not make it so. Dump the half on your own teams wounds. All is speculation now. You will likely say that the internal investigation is only there to sweep trouble under the rug before an “official unbiased” investigation. BYU will be fine. Crawl back into your own world.

    • Scott Gower (@scottmgower)

      May 28, 2014 at 7:47 pm

      I thought the article was pretty clear. Loyal Cougars spoke with a source close to the athletic department. Not speculation, but investigation.

    • Samurai Jack

      May 28, 2014 at 8:02 pm

      Dick = depraved Ute with way too much time on his hands. And when he says “we” he means nothing of what he says as he has no tie to BYU whatsoever other than his animosity. His “name” belies his sincerity and depth of contribution.

    • Mike Thompson

      May 29, 2014 at 8:42 am

      @DS– funny post coming from someone hiding behind anonymity. Your handle (LOL) discredits the point you are trying to make from the get go.

      A statement like “laughingstock to the rest of the country” is certainly a reach. I live outside of Utah and don’t see that at all. As a matter of fact, it is just the opposite—the author here (and several other pieces from other sites over the last week) is pointing out that the many of the “reports” over the last week were done in haste—without fact checking or based on speculation. It was Jerry Springer-esque… They hoped that the “sky is falling” type of reporting would get people to listen to them. Shady journalism. The author here is just stating that this may not be the case and we don’t need to have our panties in a wad.

      Your post sounds much like the reports that were coming out of the Utah media last week. Sounds like a troll to me…

  2. Peter Gozinia

    May 28, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    From “BYU expects no major NCAA penalties” to “It could be far worse than anything we’ve imagined” and finished up at “We have reason to believe (an NCAA technicality) will be the case.”

    Sooooo . . . . . You didn’t actually “independently verify” anything and you just posted an “article” full of nothing but opinion, speculation, and wishful thinking. Very insightful.

    • Brett Hein

      May 30, 2014 at 11:29 am

      We clearly reported what sources told us. Greg’s “It *could* be far worse…” was commentary on Kinahan’s article — in a “anything is possible” sense. Because what sources have told us, we have strong reason to believe what we stated.

      • Peter Gozinia

        May 30, 2014 at 10:43 pm

        No, it wasn’t commentary in a “anything is possible” sense. It was a CYA statement for when your “sourced” information turns out to be incorrect. You can point to that paragraph and say “well, we also said it “may run deeper” and “it could be far worse” so technically, we weren’t wrong”.

        The majority of the local sports media has *real* sources telling them much worse has occurred. The only people saying otherwise are BYU homers(Gurney), a fan blog(loyalcougars), Johnny come lately(Monty on 1320) and a former player(Derik Stevenson) who in his efforts to downplay this whole thing has actually confirmed many of the allegations against BYU & Busby.

        Just admit it. You don’t have sources, unless Gurney and cougarboard count as sources. You didn’t independently verify anything, and this whole piece was just wishful thinking.

  3. JB Atwood

    May 29, 2014 at 6:58 am

    Do people read the article? There is a source (that’s the whole point) for the assumption that it is not going to be a big deal in the end.

  4. Tim Tsai

    May 29, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    I loved Mr. Sqeezer’s dig at Gordon Monson. He makes an excellent point. There are zero journalists in Utah who cover BYU and aren’t BYU fans. So, either Gordon’s a BYU fan or he’s not a journalist. Would be entertaining to see Mr. Monson’s outrage to either accusation.

    Always entertaining to see how much effort Ute fans put into trolling. If I were forced to root for the Utes, I’d probably do the same. Funny stuff.

  5. Pingback: BYU AD Tom Holmoe says what Loyal Cougars readers already know - Loyal Cougars